Jenny Evans:
[0:16] So, what is our topic for today? Do we have a topic?
Paul Konrardy:
[0:20] I don't even think we said welcome to Monsters of Curiosity. Are we even real? That's okay. I don't know. Yeah, we had several topics. What's new? I think you brought that up, Jen. What's new and different? What have you learned lately? I think you've had the biggest learning curve of us all. So you've been sharing a lot of things you learned.
Jenny Evans:
[0:45] I don't know. Like, I have been reflecting on this. And I think just towards the end of the trip, this is going to sound really weird to say, but I said to Tiffany, I'm really proud of us for making this happen. because there were a lot of doubts. There was a lot of fear. And I thought that we overcame those, in leaving, but then when we got there and you start seeing things and immediately your brain's going towards why this isn't going to work, why this is a bad idea, or.
Jenny Evans:
[1:31] Renting a scooter. like traffic there's kind of chaos they use all sides of the street at all times and we're like there's no way we're getting a scooter we'll die, um we did end up getting a scooter towards the end and i know tiffany was not excited about it um i feigned a little more confidence than i actually had but i was like the only way, that we're going to learn how to do this is by doing it so we have too. And then for me personally, also learning how to surf the water historically has not been my comfort place. And so learning how to do that felt like a big, hurdle that had been in my life for a long time, where I was always like, it would be fun to learn how to surf, but I can't submerged without, like, plugging my nose. So how's that going to work? But I can do that now.
Paul Konrardy:
[2:35] Excellent. Excellent.
Jenny Evans:
[2:37] So it was just, you know, like getting out of your comfort zone. It's hard and it's freaking scary, but it's also so rewarding on the other side. Even if it doesn't turn out well, the fact that you did it and you tried is definitely worth something.
Susan Evans:
[2:59] Yeah.
Paul Konrardy:
[3:01] Okay. It's Monsters of Curiosity. I have so many questions. Okay. So were you both on the same scooter?
Jenny Evans:
[3:08] Yes.
Paul Konrardy:
[3:09] Okay.
Jenny Evans:
[3:10] And who was driving? Tiffany was the bitch on the back.
Paul Konrardy:
[3:13] Ah, I was going to say, who got the rumble seat? And that was it, did you have to sharpen your elbows and make your way through? Or how did you just take back roads? Or how did you do that?
Jenny Evans:
[3:26] Uh well the other thing that complicated it is that you're driving on the left side of the road and so like when you're merging into traffic or when you're turning like you just everything has to be opposite so, i mean it was just i rode the scooter up and down the alley several times trying to get comfortable then i put tiffany on the back we went up and down the alley many times, And the woman who rented it to us was very nervous for us. But it was like, we just got to go.
Paul Konrardy:
[4:04] Well, no, they weren't nervous for you. They weren't nervous for getting their bike back.
Susan Evans:
[4:07] They were nervous for inventory.
Paul Konrardy:
[4:09] Nothing to do with you.
Susan Evans:
[4:10] I'm nervous about my inventory. Yeah.
Paul Konrardy:
[4:13] Might have to replace this thing.
Jenny Evans:
[4:15] You know, and not knowing where we were going either. You know, like I had my map there, but, you know, it's like, oh, so you're not knowing the lay of the land. I mean, I just felt like I'm like, oh, yeah, this is what it feels like when you're a brand new driver. And you have to think about all of the micro steps of driving. Whereas, you know, now you can drive and not even think about the fact that you're driving. So it puts you back into that learner's mindset. Yeah. Helmets or not. Day two, I was like, I'm getting good at this. A chicken is in the middle of the road. We're going, I don't know, 40 kilometers per hour. A chicken with a fucking plastic bag on its head is like, and it's going in circles. I hit it. I was like, sorry, chicken. I was like, what are the flipping odds? a chicken with a plastic bag on its head.
Susan Evans:
[5:20] That tells me that chicken had a wish, actually.
Paul Konrardy:
[5:24] Either that...
Paul Konrardy:
[5:26] I've got to say, with the bag on it, it was convenient, wasn't it? I mean, the bag was, the chicken was in the bag.
Susan Evans:
[5:31] Yeah, that chicken was in process of leaving this earth already. So, it probably ran across the road simply to say, this is taking too long. I must make it faster.
Paul Konrardy:
[5:47] Amazing. So is that what you had for dinner?
Jenny Evans:
[5:51] Mm, good question. Yeah, no, we just kept going. We just kept going.
Susan Evans:
[5:57] Don't look back.
Jenny Evans:
[5:58] Don't look back.
Jenny Evans:
[5:59] Don't stop. Don't. Yep.
Paul Konrardy:
[6:03] Are you sure you're not in? No, I'm not going to go there.
Susan Evans:
[6:06] That was the right choice.
Paul Konrardy:
[6:08] So, helmets? Yes. Did you wear helmets?
Jenny Evans:
[6:11] Yes.
Susan Evans:
[6:13] Good. Chicken learned a lesson about helmets. Should have had a helmet.
Jenny Evans:
[6:15] A plastic bag does not make a helmet.
Susan Evans:
[6:18] That is not a helmet. No.
Paul Konrardy:
[6:20] It's not a helmet make. No. Wow. Hey, that's a great story, though. See, I'm glad you told us that.
Jenny Evans:
[6:28] Yep.
Susan Evans:
[6:28] I remember that.
Paul Konrardy:
[6:30] Did you hit anything else?
Susan Evans:
[6:35] Yes, we hit seven other things. Oh, yeah.
Paul Konrardy:
[6:38] We hit five small children and an old baby trying to cross the road. Okay.
Susan Evans:
[6:46] Oh my god we are not allowed back in Indonesia. Thank you Paul for bringing that up
Paul Konrardy:
[6:54] Susan you've been trying to get a word in and i keep bugging with the questions
Jenny Evans:
[6:57] Susan, what did you learn this month?
Susan Evans:
[6:59] I well before we get into that because i'd have to really seriously think about it um you said something and i think this was on one of your um reels i think or i saw it but it reminded me of it some smart person said it i'm attributing it to you um
Paul Konrardy:
[7:22] Must be true
Susan Evans:
[7:23] It yeah where it was we went over there with the doubts and was like will this work will this work and i think in one of your reals you said we have a tendency to say here's why it won't work first instead of here's why this will work and damn the torpedoes for anybody who says otherwise. And I thought that was really interesting and struck home for me. And I swear to God, it was you who said it. Whereas like, rather than this won't work, won't work, what will work was, I wouldn't say educational. It was, but it was a really good reminder of it will work. And it's a mindset that I used to have that I always said, the answer is out there. We just don't know it yet. So we're going to find it. And it was, which is a very optimistic way to look at things. and i had forgotten that until i heard you say that and i was like
Susan Evans:
[8:17] God damn it yes
Susan Evans:
[8:19] It will always work rather than but i thought that was so interesting that you were you know halfway around the world in a completely new situation where this won't work could have ruled every day every minute every second because it is so brand new whether you've been there or not you were going there with a completely different lens not let's vacation but let's live you know which is not the same thing um but i thought that was i guess i could put that under the umbrella of what did i learn um i learned that was reminded of that that it will always it will always work out the way it's supposed to it will always work out and with that it is so much easier rather than i have to climb this mountain. It's like, I'm in a plane. Look at all those mountains. It's just like, I'm above all this. It will work out. And that has been, since you said it, wake up every morning, it's like, it'll work out the way it's supposed to. It'll be fine. It'll be fine. And it was really helpful to hear that, especially when I was not in a strenuous situation, but safe in a home in the upper Midwest.
Jenny Evans:
[9:32] I mean, that is our brains. Our brains are hardwired. Anytime there's something new or unusual, we're hardwired to be very skeptical about it and just assume that it's dangerous. And if you're not aware of that that is the natural tendency for all of our brains, you do just get into as soon as like you have an idea, you've shot it down five different ways without really giving it a chance. And I think one of the stories that I shared on my reel was what I learned from a friend is her and her husband actually moved to Mexico. They live there, but they do these regular brainstorming sessions about what they want their lives to be like.
Susan Evans:
[10:23] That's what it was.
Susan Evans:
[10:23] Yep.
Jenny Evans:
[10:26] She would come up with all these great ideas and like they were like these joy balloons and her husband would just be like, pop. He kept popping her balloons and she's just like, would you just leave your darts at the door? Like, yeah, if the goal here is to just come up with ideas, we can't be shooting every single one of them down. Like, we can go back through these ideas with a filter later on, but let's not do that right now. Let's just be in creativity, possibility, curiosity. Because I think, too, if you go at it with that intention, it is more possible to see that there is possibility, and the odds of this actually working out are quite high.
Susan Evans:
[11:15] Yeah. That's what I learned.
Paul Konrardy:
[11:23] What part of the brain does that?
Jenny Evans:
[11:25] Sneaky Pete. Yeah. Primitive.
Paul Konrardy:
[11:29] Very primitive to part of us. Is that because we don't have the experience? So we're resistant to anything that is outside? or is it there's something a degree of chance or risk you can take that doesn't feel quite so scary i mean is it a degree thing i guess is what i'm trying to get to like let's say you go 12 hours from where you usually live things are going to be quite different uh just face it so yeah i can see why that would be filled with all kinds of permanent brain stuff but yeah the answer is across the street and meet a new neighbor, I mean, that isn't quite as scary. But it still has some scary, depends on who it is. So, I don't know.
Jenny Evans:
[12:21] The answer is yes and no, always and never.
Paul Konrardy:
[12:26] Thanks.
Paul Konrardy:
[12:27] Go south, east, west. Yeah.
Jenny Evans:
[12:30] I think it's unique to all of us. Like, what pushes you outside of your comfort zone may not for somebody else. What feels new for you might not feel new for somebody else. But anytime...
Paul Konrardy:
[12:46] Yeah, I get that. I get that.
Jenny Evans:
[12:47] Yeah.
Paul Konrardy:
[12:48] But there are.
Paul Konrardy:
[12:48] Personality types that seem to be much more adverse to trying or putting themselves into a situation where they have that sensation. But others don't. I mean... It doesn't necessarily mean they've had the same experiences, or maybe they did. I don't know.
Jenny Evans:
[13:09] I think it's the nature and the nurture of that personality-wise. I think some people have just innately more tolerance and some have less. And then you combine that with experience is really the best teacher. You know, when you've taken some risk and been rewarded or maybe even taken a risk and failed and realized, wow, that wasn't even a failure, like nothing bad even happened.
Susan Evans:
[13:42] Y As you say, I think if you're more tolerant... You have less fear of what's new because you're more open to it. Because the people I find less tolerant seem to live in fear of if I'm wrong. It's either a reflection on me. It pulls the rug out from under a belief system I can't let go of or can't add to or something. I mean, I don't, because I think tolerance is like, what makes people tolerant and what makes people completely intolerant? It's like everybody I know who's tolerant is like, what the hell is that? That's cool. Oh, my God. Now I've changed. Now I've learned. It's like you become more tolerant when you're open to actually processing the experience as something new. And I think everybody can have a new experience. But how you integrate that into your life, I think, is what opens a door, keeps one shut.
Jenny Evans:
[14:44] Mm-hmm.
Paul Konrardy:
[14:46] Well, it's hard to remember that everything's going to be okay when you're faced with something new and different all the time. Constant change is a, but maybe even that's a tolerable thing is when you have constant change, it's one thing. Like you said, when you're on a trip or you are not home and it's constant change, at a certain point you become a little bit more comfortable with all that. yeah so you're willing to take more more of the risks that you know it'll be okay because you've taken a risk before and it was okay rather than just it's maybe it's an inertial thing like the how things stay in motion when they are in motion but um I just find it fascinating how much fear and what it takes to get over that, that amount of energy you have to put out to do it. And then while you're doing it, you're still getting pulled back by Sneaky Pete going, you dirty guy, stop it. Because it's, I mean, I'm so proud of you to hear that you learned to surf. I'm, who knows, maybe someday I will. Never been of interest to me, but maybe it will be someday. And that you did that is so cool when you had these other concerns.
Paul Konrardy:
[16:12] I just got to say, did you get the thing, the nose plugger thing that you put on your nose and wear it around and it's flesh color?
Jenny Evans:
[16:20] I just ingested a shit ton of salt water.
Susan Evans:
[16:25] Oh it's like a netty pot
Paul Konrardy:
[16:27] maybe that's
Paul Konrardy:
[16:28] Why your stomach
Jenny Evans:
[16:28] but then yeah i also realized it's it's not that bad i didn't like it was not that big of a deal i don't need to plug my nose anymore even though i've been doing it for 54 years of my life not necessary Jenny.
Paul Konrardy:
[16:44] Was Tiffany with you?
Jenny Evans:
[16:46] Yes. And actually, she got up her very first time, went all the way in. She was a freaking natural. She was a natural. It was insane.
Paul Konrardy:
[17:00] Well, I was just thinking maybe that's why she got the nose thing or the viral thing. She ingested too much of the wrong kind of salt
Jenny Evans:
[17:06] That was towards the end. I think it would have helped. It would have been doing just like a neti pot, but on steroids.
Paul Konrardy:
[17:14] Yeah.
Susan Evans:
[17:16] That's what I remember. Salt water. Getting caught in a wave and being pummeled around in Mexico. I came up and it was just like phoom! And I was like oh this is a neti pot Yeah I will never do this unless I'm in the ocean. So I was like
Jenny Evans:
[17:34] Paul, what's been your big a-ha this month? You've had a lot going on.
Paul Konrardy:
[17:42] Yeah, and I think a lot of them actually have to do with a similar topic to what we're talking about. Everything takes 15 more steps than you think it's going to. And you can't be afraid to start because you're just going to and you have to just be so flexible because in this day and age of all of our wonderful technology, which, of course, I'm a huge technologist. and enthusiast.
Paul Konrardy:
[18:06] It still doesn't change the fact that it's going to be messed up no matter what process you're trying to do, whether that's changing your Internet provider or changing your security code provider or, you know, any because we moved our house. If anybody is curious what was going on with us, we moved everything. So it's a process. The only thing that worked flawlessly, honestly, was hiring this one wonderful moving service that I will sing their presence forever called on the other side bovers. And, um, they're part of an academy for people who are changing their lives. And it was amazing. That was the only thing that was flawless in the entire experience, but everything else had something go wrong. And you always have to learn to be patient and live with obscure, what's the word? Ambiguity. Live with ambiguity because, you know, 15, you want to get something done. There's 15 things you have to do, but there's also, you have to do them in a certain order. and if you don't do them in there you go back to you know you do not pesco you go back to beginning and you come come back at it um so you know it's just human nature when there's that kind of change fear wasn't a big part of it because i mean how many households have i moved in my life several um including across country and that kind of thing this was just across town but it is one of those it's a discombobulating
Paul Konrardy:
[19:35] Feeling to go through for several weeks and figure out oh you wake up and you go where the hell am i i forgot so you know we have our brain takes a while to catch up so what have i learned learned though i think more is the patient's piece or how to relearn it or be reminded of it and that's that's one of the bigger things We've got a boatload of things that are happening in the tech world, but even that's transient. So just being aware that there's going to always be a change and you have to adapt to it.
Jenny Evans:
[20:13] I mean, it's funny, human nature, which is why I love psychology, sort of this theme today of fear and unknown and change and patience. in that all of us here and everybody that's listening or watching right now, you've successfully handled everything that has come your way up until this point in time. Why on God's green earth do we all of a sudden think that starting today, we're not going to be able to handle it or things are just going to go haywire, they're going to go off the wall, But that is so often our assumption. But if past behavior is a predictor of future events, we should never have a fear in the world. We should be patient as hell.
Susan Evans:
[21:09] Right. Well, and is it because... Because I think Paul and I, well, you and Tiff, too, you guys travel all over the world all the time, though those were vacations and this was different, but you know yourself in travel modes around the world, literally. And so is it the repetition of doing it that we're like, I've done this before, so I can do it now? Or do I trust myself because I've done it before? Is it the repetition or now I know I can handle it? Because you've handled, to your point, Jen, you've handled every other crazy day where you thought this cannot be happening. We've all overcome it because we're still here. So is that a trust thing or at this point, whatever you throw at me, it's not that bad so I can handle this. So is it a familiarity with change or I just trust myself to figure this out? Or both. They're all of the above. Yeah.
Jenny Evans:
[22:15] And then, after a while, you just don't have any more fucks to give.
Susan Evans:
[22:19] Yeah, exactly. Well, I live there now, so yes.
Paul Konrardy:
[22:24] Empty your fuck bucket. I like that.
Susan Evans:
[22:27] Yes.
Jenny Evans:
[22:27] None in there.
Susan Evans:
[22:29] Yeah. Do not care.
Paul Konrardy:
[22:31] I love that.
Susan Evans:
[22:32] I try. I will say I have learned I have to. I was answering a question for somebody in a business sense and I went into a question mode that sounded like I didn't it was a good question but in an environment that was very caring. So my question came off like I was some sort of monster, but it was like, this is a caring thing. And this organization has an opportunity to really make a difference by charging for some things in a caring situation. And I brought that up. Everyone looked at me like, why would you charge for that? I'm like, because you can and others do. But so what I learned was, though I learned questions to ask not in front of others,
Susan Evans:
[23:32] But what to ask someone, may I have a moment of your time after the whole presentation? So I did learn that. That was interesting. I was like, oh, that was funny. And I knew that. And it caused me not to trust myself again. I was like, student, you know better than this. You've done this time and time before, and you've never done it like this. And so I thought, oh, well, who cares? I'm just going to ask you because I think it's a good question. And I should have put a little bit more back in that bucket of, no, you do really need to give a fuck right here.
Paul Konrardy:
[24:08] Well, maybe not, though. I mean, I think sometimes those questions can be incredibly jarring from people in the audience that's listening to it. But sometimes they need that slap upside the head. Yeah. For them to get outside of their blinded view of what they're doing. You know, and if they can defend why they wouldn't do that, maybe that brings back their, what is their goal in life? What are the, in a business setting, what are they trying to achieve? So sometimes you do need to have some kind of a jarring question like that.
Susan Evans:
[24:42] I knew it was a jarring question. And here's kind of a lesson for everyone that you do want to think twice. If the preface to your question, and this was the preface, I don't want to sound like the devil. However.
Paul Konrardy:
[24:55] Yeah. Oh, dear.
Jenny Evans:
[24:58] Alert.
Susan Evans:
[24:58] That's what I said. So that should have been a you might want to pause.
Jenny Evans:
[25:05] Oh, my God.
Paul Konrardy:
[25:06] If that's the first thing that came to your mind, you knew better.
Susan Evans:
[25:09] I thought, you know what? But I prefaced it so everybody knew, okay, we're going to sound like Satan here.
Paul Konrardy:
[25:16] I did like earlier when you described everyone looking at you like a monster, and I'm thinking, you are a monster, Susan. You're a Monster of Curiosity. shameless plug couldn't
Paul Konrardy:
[25:27] Bring it out couldn't help it
Susan Evans:
[25:31] oh my god yeah
Paul Konrardy:
[25:33] That's amazing
Susan Evans:
[25:34] That's that's the other thing I also learned if that's the preface don't say it out loud although it was a good question and led to yes we can make money that way once everybody got over the take off my carrying hat put on my business hat which I also said because I realized
Paul Konrardy:
[25:52] That's the jarring question
Susan Evans:
[25:54] The silence in the room was like, keep explaining, you know,
Paul Konrardy:
[26:00] This scares me.
Susan Evans:
[26:02] You're a terrible person to think that way. Yes, I know. Let's get past that. Let's talk about this. Yeah.
Jenny Evans:
[26:08] We're not here to talk about me. We're talking about your business.
Susan Evans:
[26:11] It's not about me.
Susan Evans:
[26:12] This is about the organization. Yeah.
Paul Konrardy:
[26:16] Yeah. Although I think you may have floated the idea of what you wanted them to think of you as. So with that.
Susan Evans:
[26:22] Makes it so much easier than the next time.
Susan Evans:
[26:28] The devil's walked in. Yes, I have.
Paul Konrardy:
[26:31] Be afraid of me. Be very very afraid
Susan Evans:
[26:34] So much easier. So much
Paul Konrardy:
[26:38] Well um i think we started by asking jen how that they're back you're back are you are you aside from the jet lag does it feel like your home or do you feel like your your home has now shifted
Jenny Evans:
[26:56] That's a really good question um Um, at this point in time, I do feel like this is temporary, because, I don't know, like, I'm settled in, but I'm not gonna settle all the way in. Because we're excited to figure out when can we get back out there.
Susan Evans:
[27:23] Mm-hmm.
Paul Konrardy:
[27:24] It's wise. Yeah. Divorcing yourself from a physical location is probably where you need to be right now.
Jenny Evans:
[27:32] Yeah.
Susan Evans:
[27:32] Mm-hmm.
Jenny Evans:
[27:34] But also, when you say that, like, I don't know, this is going to sound cheesy as hell. Tiffany is my home. and as long as i have her that's home for me so wherever we are if we're together.
Paul Konrardy:
[27:51] That's not cheesy at all that's
Jenny Evans:
[27:54] Yeah it's home.
Paul Konrardy:
[27:56] I think the same thing i think the same thing and that's why we aren't stuck in one place for the last 35 40 years yeah because you don't have to be you just You go where that person is.
Susan Evans:
[28:12] I think that's interesting. That should be a topic for some other time of where is home and at which stage of your life? Because for me, home never wanted to be here, but the business was here, so it had to be home. Until technology made it where I could do anything from anywhere. And now that I'm older, home is wherever Eric is. And the dog, some would suggest home is where the dog is, and Eric joins us.
Paul Konrardy:
[28:48] I was going to ask which
Paul Konrardy:
[28:50] Order that was, but that's okay.
Susan Evans:
[28:55] That's because we're looking at other places to now go experience life. And geography is like, I want to go there, I want to go there, I want to go there, I want to go there. And I can stay there and do that. Do you feel like that in your 20s and 30s? Or is your home... It's just different because you can be a digital nomad. I mean, that would be a real interesting where is home and when. And how does your age impact that? This sounds like something we need Scott Galloway here for or something because that's way... Yeah, I mean, it's like... But it's interesting.
Paul Konrardy:
[29:27] We can have a wonderful conversation about it because I think we all...
Susan Evans:
[29:30] And then plug him into an AI and say, you're Scott Galloway. Comment on this.
Jenny Evans:
[29:35] And dovetailing into that of how travel has become, more of the norm for people. Like when you think of like my daughter, Bella, who's 26, like how much she's traveled compared to how much I traveled up until her age. compared to my mom versus her mom that generations ago travel was just not as accessible as it is now, which i think you know like your definition of home it was very geographically located whereas now, just with the world becoming i guess smaller because it is easier to travel There's more exposure through television, books, social media to see that there is a big, big world out there beyond where you live.
Susan Evans:
[30:40] Yeah. Yeah.
Paul Konrardy:
[30:45] That's quite threatening to some people. So we'll have to try lightly in that conversation.
Susan Evans:
[30:51] I think we dive right in. I will introduce myself as I may sound like the devil. But I got a thought here.
Paul Konrardy:
[31:04] I completely agree with you on that. I mean, I used to travel for a living. So it is that ubiquity of access to travel really does change how you view home, I think, in a big way. And for some of us, it's travel is just the out and back. And for others of us, it doesn't matter where you are, because you really know who you are and you don't need much stuff. that's right you know wherever i what's the song wherever i hang my hat it's home so it's like uh All of us have a different level at which we accept that. There are some people, and I'm going to say some birth signs, are very home-centric. And they really like to have home as a big thing. And when you're not like that, it's hard to understand it. And when you are like that, you go, oh, yeah, that's right. I've got to get out more.
Paul Konrardy:
[32:16] so there's uh yeah that would be a good conversation can't wait for it i'm glad you're in one piece jen after hearing about your scooter driving skills um and and
Paul Konrardy:
[32:30] And that you learned to surf i mean that's that's what do you call it that's uh dude that's cool i I mean, hang ten. What are we supposed to say these days? I have no idea.
Jenny Evans:
[32:44] Yeah, I was going to say something, but I'll just embarrass and age myself.
Paul Konrardy:
[32:48] Yeah.
Susan Evans:
[32:51] I support the Beach Boys and be proud.
Paul Konrardy:
[32:52] Well, it sounds gnarly to me.
Jenny Evans:
[32:54] Thanks, dude.
Susan Evans:
[32:56] Yeah, hang ten, man.
Paul Konrardy:
[32:59] I just heard or read that dude is non-gendered. So you're able to say it to everybody, apparently.
Jenny Evans:
[33:08] I feel like dude is non-gendered If you grew up in The 80s and 90s It's not a gendered thing to say dude.
Paul Konrardy:
[33:17] Same with guys Guys
Jenny Evans:
[33:20] Yeah you guys Guys.
Susan Evans:
[33:21] Is non-gender
Paul Konrardy:
[33:22] Why are they This is where my curiosity comes in Those seem like masculine terms to me But is that just because I'm a guy
Jenny Evans:
[33:32] Well historically Like technically The way they're defined in a dictionary, but I've also come, and this I think is in the queer world, I just like to call everybody girl. G-U-R-L. Even if you're a boy, I'm like girl.
Susan Evans:
[33:48] Yeah. Yeah.
Paul Konrardy:
[33:51] Yeah, but you can't hear spelling, unfortunately.
Jenny Evans:
[33:54] I know, but in my brain, gurrrl.
Susan Evans:
[33:58] I think that's true. I think there's a claiming of phrases that apply to all that I enjoy.
Jenny Evans:
[34:12] Yeah.
Susan Evans:
[34:13] Because there was a time where I'd say, hey, guys, be quiet. And people would say, you can't say guys. There are women here, too. And I'd be like, oh, Jesus Christ. And it's like, no, it's, so I feel like it's kind of caught up with my lazy vernacular of just saying like, hey guys.
Paul Konrardy:
[34:27] Well, it's a living language, Susan, and you just were living a little earlier.
Susan Evans:
[34:31] No, I was just being lazy, which is.
Jenny Evans:
[34:33] And you are the devil.
Susan Evans:
[34:34] So, you know. Exactly. I am the lazy devil, which is really quite frightening when you think about it. If I turn this to evil,
Paul Konrardy:
[34:47] Hmm. I think the devil's pretty, pretty lazy. Yeah. Otherwise, I think they'd be more successful.
Susan Evans:
[34:53] True. True. Only think of one person when you say that.
Paul Konrardy:
[34:58] Oh, I know.
Susan Evans:
[35:02] Well, I'm glad you guys are back. Yes. Even though I'm sad because I know the adventure is going to continue.
Jenny Evans:
[35:10] Yes.
Susan Evans:
[35:11] I thought you guys were going to not come back, honestly. I thought it was just going to be, no, we're just never coming back. And I was like, good for you. I was just like, that was... And then it was Bella who said, no, no, no, they're coming back. And when she was here over the forest, she goes, oh, no, they're coming back. I'm like, I said, no, not. Like, I would know more.
Paul Konrardy:
[35:30] Of course you were with Susan.
Susan Evans:
[35:35] She was like, no, they're coming back on the 7th. I was like, yeah.
Susan Evans:
[35:39] That was great.
Paul Konrardy:
[35:41] A big shout out of thanks to both of you for maintaining our publishing schedule for Monsters. Thank you, Tiffany, for being sick and on the road and still getting it out. You are amazing. Thank you. Big shout out. So, and that you actually stayed on the back of the scooter with Crazy Driver, I'm impressed as all hell.
Susan Evans:
[36:07] I think body helmets
Susan Evans:
[36:09] Would be a thing over there.
Paul Konrardy:
[36:09] That's trust.
Jenny Evans:
[36:10] Yeah. All right. Well, until next time.
Paul Konrardy:
[36:15] We got hung up there for a bit.
Susan Evans:
[36:16] Now we'll see you next week. Okay. Bye.
Jenny Evans:
[36:18] Bye, gurrrrl. Bye.
Paul Konrardy:
[36:19] Bye, gurrrl.
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